Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson – Hope Is Courage and Taking Action Together (Jane Goodall Hopecast #15)


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Episode Summary

On this episode, the fireside chat finale, Dr. Jane Goodall chats with someone very special, who shares in Jane’s spirit and drive to create a better world for all – Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson. Dr. Johnson is a marine biologist, policy expert, author, as well as founder of Urban Ocean Lab and co-author of the Blue New Deal. Johnson also co-created and co-hosts the podcast, ‘How to Save a Planet’, and is the co-editor of the successful book and project ‘All We Can Save.’ Though Ayana first fell in love with the natural world under water while Jane was enchanted with forests, they share a similar story of early childhood imagination sparked by experiences in the outdoors. The two also share their passion for using language, storytelling, and community to activate individual and collective action. As both imagine a better world for people, other animals, and the planet we share, they invite magic and meaning into the minds of those who want to get involved and are not yet sure how. In the episode, Jane and Ayana discuss the true and dynamic meaning of ‘Hope,’ and why we each have a role to play in the environmental and climate renaissance of today.   

At the End of the Rainbow

Stay to the end of the episode to hear a rare archival clip of Jane on perseverance from the first National Geographic film to air on television in 1965, “Miss Goodall and the Wild Chimpanzees” narrated by Orson Welles.  

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Stay tuned…Episode 16, our final episode of season 1 of the Jane Goodall Hopecast, and our final mailbag with submissions from YOU our Hopecasters is coming soon! 

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About Author

Scientist. Activist. Storyteller. Icon. Jane Goodall blazed the trail and changed the world. Now, she's studying new subjects – humans! This brand-new podcast will take listeners on a one-of-a-kind journey as they learn from Dr. Goodall's extraordinary life, hear from changemaking guests from every arena, and become awed by a growing movement sparked by Jane and fueled by hope. Join us as we get curious, grow compassion, and take action to build a better world for all. As we face some of the greatest challenges to humankind and the natural world, we have a unique opportunity: the power of technology to connect and share ideas. Now is the time to galvanize people around Jane’s message of hope in action and bring big thinkers together to change hearts and minds alike. The Jane Goodall Hopecast is produced by the Jane Goodall Institute by Dan DuPont, Shawn Sweeney, and Ashley Sullivan. Our production partner is FRQNCY Media. Michelle Khouri is our executive producer, Enna Garkusha is our producer, and Matthew Ernest Filler is our editor and sound designer. Our music is composed and performed by Ruth Mendelson with additional violin tracks from Angie Shyr. Sound design and music composition for the Conservation Chorus is by Matthew Ernest Filler.